Wednesday, October 29, 2008

S-FAQ: Elemental stones

What kind of elemental stones are there?

Fire, Earth, Wind, Water, Dark, Holy.
They are also called "attribute stones".


Why are elemental stones useful?

Adding an elemental stone to a weapon adds elemental damage to the weapon's attack.

Adding an elemental stone to an armor piece adds elemental resistance to the armor's defense.

Ideally each armor piece should be enhanced with a different element, in order to have some resistance to all.

Caution: Only S and S80 grade items can have stones added.


Where do I find elemental stones?

1. Elemental stones drop from mobs. For example south Isle of Prayer mobs drop
fire stones and Hellbound mobs drop divine stones.

2. You can also exchange stones in the attribute-npc found in some towns (Aden etc.):
Fire <--> Water
Earth <--> Wind
Dark <--> Divine

3. Alternatively you can buy them from player shops. Note that fire/water
stones are about 10 times cheaper than Wind/Earth stones.

4. Lastly, there is an IoP quest (maybe more?) for contaminated crystals.


How do I apply an elemental stone to an item?

Double-click the stone, then select the item you want it applied.

Caution: the application process is not always successful! If it fails, the stone disappears but the item is unaffected for better or worse.

It is suggested that the success rate of the application process depends on your level (as is skill overenchanting).
The chance seems to be something like lv76 = 70%, Lv77 = 78% Lv78 =83% Lv79 =88% Lv80 = 95%.

If you are level 76-78, it is recommended to have a higher level friend (preferably 80+) do the application for a better success rate (that is before you augment the weapon ofc).


How many elemental stones can I add?

Enough to get the attribute value to 150 for weapons and 300 for armor.

After the Gracia final patch, the max attribute value increases with the use of "Element Crystals", which can be produced from certain items players collect during Air-Warfare.
Weapons: from 150 to 300
Armor: from 300 to 600


What is the difference between elemental and attribute stones?

No difference. Elemental stones are also called attribute stones.


Which elemental attribute should I choose for my weapon?

Pick the elemental attribute which is similar to your main attack skill, i.e.
Fire for Sorcerers, Water for Spellsingers, Wind for Spellhowlers, Dark for Necros etc.

Paladins or Swordsingers should consider a Divine attribute as it will add directly to holy weapon and related skills.

Each class has some sort of preferred elemental attribute which they will have in their arsenal. Thats the stone you should go for.


What if I already have an elemental attribute in my attack?

The attribute on the weapon "wins" over all other things which influence your attack attribute.

For example:
o If you are a SH and have 150 wind on your AM, you will attack with wind attribute, even if somebody buffs with Holy Weapon (would be pointless anyway). You could use Seed of Wind skill which adds 20 wind, so that you would attack with 170 Wind, because same attribute stacks.

o On the other hand, if you had a AM with 150 Fire, you could use Seed of Wind, but the extra 20 wind attribute would not do anything at all - your attack attribute would still be 150 Fire and you would receive no additional damage at all for your wind type nukes.


I am a buffer, should I buff holy weapon to my party mate?

No, if your party mate has a weapon with earth/water/fire/dark stones.
Yes, if your party mate has a weapon without any stones.
Yes, if your party mate has a weapon enhanced with divine stones.
No need, if your party mate is a support class.


I am a destroyer, should I use the "Infernal form" self buff?

This buff adds fire to the attack, which stacks only with fire attribute you might have on your weapon. So
Yes, if you have firestones on your weapon.
Yes, if you have no stones on your weapon.
No, if you have earth/water/wind/dark/divine attribute on your weapon.
Therefore, get firestones for your weapon.


I have used fame points to enchant my weapon for PvP. Can I add stones now?

No, you cannot. Add stones first, enchant your weapon for PvP afterwards.


I have augmented my weapon with a Lifestone. Can I add stones now?

Yes, you can. These two are totally independent, so you can augment first and add stones later; or you can add stones and then augment; or you can add some stones, augment, then add some more stones - whatever suits you best.


How much extra damage will my weapon do, when I add these stones?

The added damage is determined by the difference between:
  • the value of the attacker's attribute (= how many stones you have successfully applied) and
  • the value of the defensive attribute of the target against this element (= how well is your target protected against such attacks, e.g. by adding opposite stones to his/her armor).
Analysis and test results can be found here.


Some examples please?

Success on 28 Firestone applications will wield a maximum fire attribute of 150, which provides a fire damage bonus of up to 70% extra fire damage.

A clean draconic bow with a fire attribute of 150 was equivalent to a +8 draconic bow.

The target's resistances (e.g. fire resistance) make a big difference. On most buffed high level players with decent jeweller, the result will be around 20-25% damage bonus.


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16 comments:

Anonymous said...

Thanks for the information :)

I have a little question.
Let say you apply attribute stones to a weapon without SA. Then you apply the SA. Do you loose the attribute stone effect ?

Anonymous said...

No, as far as I know, you do not.

These two seem to be totally independent.

Archmage said...

Indeed, element attribute and SA are two different things :)

a cleric said...

Thanx Anonymous for the question, I have added it to the s-FAQ :-)

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Sergio said...

I have seen some weapons that seems like they expell fire. Is this a visual effect of elemental stones?

Anonymous said...

Elemental attribute increases damage of elemental skills if the element is the same. Does it changes anything to damage from regular attack or non-elemental skill? If yes, does it increase the same amount from elemental skill and non elemental attack (for ex ~70% with 150 element)? I assume that the target has no resistance or weakness against this element.

Archmage said...

Element does indeed add damage to regular physical attacks, like for example when you use a 150 sword or bow to bash things!

Anonymous said...

As far as I know, the sonic attacks that duelists have are not element related and they can't benefit from attribute stones as much as other classes.

But if I want to go 150 on my duals, what stones should I go for? For PvE, I was thinking divine stones, since many mobs in game are demons or unholy.

Or should I consider any other type of attribute stone for my duelist? Are there any stones that i can benfit from in PvP?

Anonymous said...

if i have enchanted wepons like vesper dual daggers +12 can i use elemental stones ??

Anonymous said...

i have a warcryer. the Fire stone afect the Stealth Scence?

Archmage said...

Steal Essence goes non-attribute damage, so Fire Stones should do nothing.

Anonymous said...

I'm playing Doombringer, so i should use dark stone for my weapon right?

Archmage said...

I don't play a DB but the rule is simple: if your skills are dark attacks, yes :)

Unknown said...

I have a kavatary..should i enchant my skills with power or fire .. (im using infernal form and my weapon is enchanted with fire att)
thanx for the comments

Anonymous said...

will i do more dmg if i enchant skills with attribute attack or i should enchant them with power?

for example : a GH with wind attribute on weapon and deadly blow +10 with wind attribute enchanted will do more dmg then deadly blow +10 enchanted with power?